HomeMy WebLinkAbout2015-10-08 Planning Commission Meeting Minutes CITY OF OAK PARK HEIGHTS
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES
Thursday, October 8,2015—Oak Park Heights City Hall
Call to Order: Chair Kremer called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
Present: Commissioners Anthony, Bye and Kremer ; City Planner Richards, City Engineer
Mann,City Administrator Johnson and Commission Liaison Liljegren.Absent:Commissioners
Nelson and Thurmes.
II. Approval of Agenda:
Commissioner Anthony, seconded by Commissioner Bye,moved to approve the Agenda as
presented. Carried 3 —0.
III. Approval of September 10, 2015 Meeting Minutes:
Commissioner Bye, seconded by Commissioner Anthony, moved to approve the Minutes as
presented. Carried 3 - 0.
IV. Department/Commission Liaison / Other Reports: City Planner Richards introduced City
Engineer, Lee Mann of Stantec.
V. Visitors/Public Comment: None.
VI. Public Hearings:
A. ISD#834—Stillwater Area High School—Consider request for Conditional
Use Permit Amendment to allow building expansion and modifications to
parking and athletic field at Stillwater Area High School, located at 5701
Stillwater Blvd. N.
City Planner Richards reviewed and discussed the October 2, 2015 Planning Report,
noting that updated information had been received from the applicant since, the
report's preparation, and has been distributed to the Commission for their use at the
meeting.
Chair Kremer opened the hearing for public comment and invited the applicant to
address the Commission.
Mark Drommerhausen introduced himself as Stillwater Schools Principal on Special
Assignment to work on the school bond project, including the high school project.
He noted other representatives from and on behalf of the school district present in
the audience. Mr. Drommerhausen shared a historical perspective of the bond
process followed by the school district from the start to present and offered a brief
summary of what is planned and the timeline for the construction process. He noted
that plans for snow removal had been questioned and provided a review of the plan
for the same.
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Mr. Drommerhausen made himself and other representatives present available for
questions and responded to questions related to the current student population and
what the student population capacity. Mr. Drommerhausen noted that the plan is not
an aspect of anticipated population growth; rather it's an academic restructuring that
moves the ninth grade into the high school.
Steve Erickson of BWBR Architects introduced himself as the architect representing
the school district. In response to the question of whether or not the greenhouse,
currently at the school, would be removed, he stated that it will be relocated upon the
campus.
Rob Bach, Stillwater Area High School Principal responded to the question of what
research was relived upon for decision making during their planning process to
determine the size of the school needed, etc. Mr. Bach noted research shows that
large schools offer greater opportunities than smaller school and that they
specifically looked at Edina, Minnetonka and Wayzata High Schools—three of the
highest performing public high schools in Minnesota as part of their planning. He
noted that practices of the Minnesota Dept. of Education were also looked at. ISD
#834 is operating on a grade 10-12 model, while State standards are written on a
grade 9-12 model. He pointed out transition delays in initiating college
conversations with ninth grade students with them and their transcripts separate from
the Senior High School setting. He provided Chair Kremer with research references
as being MN State scores and standards.
Commissioner Anthony noted that she had concerns with the large population of
students and adding to that volume as well as the traffic in the area and related safety
aspects.
Commissioner Bye inquired about the parking and drop off plans for the site.
Discussion ensued as to parking and traffic guidance throughout the campus.
Mr. Erickson reviewed the traffic plan and discussed parking alterations, turn
around planning for bus movement, and general traffic flow plan for movement
through the site overall.
City Administrator Johnson noted concerns that have been historically expressed for
the safety of student crossing the street from the retail center across the street from
the high school after student's park or are dropped off there. Mr. Bach noted that
campus parking does have a charge of$250 per year and that there are 600+/-
parking spaces available for student parking. City Planner Richards noted that
parking capacity at the campus is being increased. It was questioned whether or not
the Commission should be looking at the off campus parking issue. City
Administrator Johnson noted that he made note of the situation with regard to the
safety aspect of roadway crossing.
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Tony Willger, Stillwater Area Schools Facilities/Site Manager provided the
percentages of the current student population who are signed up for bussing.
Specifically he noted that 25%of the 12th grade, 50%of the 11`h grade and 95% of
the 10th grade bus. He provided estimates for 9th grade and the criteria used to
determine the need for an additional six busses for increased student population with
the addition of the 9th grade class to the campus.
Steve Erickson reviewed the plan for access by public safety personnel as revised in
response with communications with staff and the Fire Chief.
Chair Kremer inquired as to the issue of public access as noted within the planning
report.
Annette Sallman, Stillwater Area Schools Director of Community Education and
Community Relations responded to the issue of public access. She stated that
historically community public access to the school facilities has been before school,
in the evening and weekends and then throughout the summer. She noted that with
the addition of a fitness center to the campus, there would be access to that as well.
Chair Kremer inquired as to how many non-school focused events there have been
held in the building in the past 12 months.
Tim Mauer, Stillwater Area Schools Coordinator of Facility Use and Adult Athletics
responded, providing examples such as the Special Olympics event held this past
June, three to four basketball and wrestling tournaments each year, various sports
and games clinics in the summer. Rental fees are charged for use for spaces,walk
in adult athletic fees and team rates. The fitness center is still in planning stages as
to what kind of access hours will be available,parking and rates.
City Administrator Johnson noted that there is a condition within the planning report
requesting clarification of public access and process for access, for when the facility
was first constructed and what the availability and process is presently. Johnson
noted that the park dedication fee was waived at the time of facility construction in
exchange for public access to the community and that it is important to know what
that policy has been and what it is proposed to be.
Chair Kremer asked if there was anyone else in the audience who would like to
address the Commission as part of the public hearing discussion.
Warren Wasescha, 5675 Newberry Ave.N. noted that he has lived adjacent to the
high school for nearly 20 years and has observed the morning traffic flow first hand.
He stated that traffic is an issue right now with vehicles backing up at the guard
shack and stacking onto 58th St. and Hwy. 5. He noted his observations of parents
dropping kids off at the retail center across 58th St., seeing kids crossing 58th St.
nearly hit by vehicles, and frustrated drivers. He expressed his opinion that there is
not a good system in place to get traffic into the site so that kids can be dropped off
safely and so that traffic does not back up.
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Mr. Wasescha stated that he liked the plan for the school but doesn't see anything in
the materials presented that shows any improvement to the traffic flow. He asked if
they had done any traffic studies,particularly in the morning, and asked that the
Commission consider requiring that a traffic study be done and that a site plan
review be done to address whether or not the guard shack is properly located on the
property and to improve traffic flow and vehicle stacking.
City Planner Richards and City Planner Richards discussed historical activity to
traffic study activities and efforts made to relieve traffic stacking with timing of
lights and adjustments to the turning lanes. Discussion was had as to the situation
and what could be done. Commissioner Bye indicated that she would like to see this
issue reviewed and addressed. Commissioner Anthony expressed her concern that
this was a safety issue and needs to be addressed.
City Administrator asked the City Engineer to brief the Commission on the retention
pond. City Engineer Mann reported that the issue is that the site is within the City's
drinking water management area and that guidance from the Minnesota Department
of Health suggests that infiltration is not appropriate on the site and is something that
needs to be work out with the watershed.
It was noted that bicycle racks are currently in place on the school campus.
There being no other visitors to the public hearing, Chair Kremer closed the hearing
at 8:08 p.m.
Commissioner Bye, seconded by Commissioner Anthony moved to recommend City
Council approval of the request, subject to the conditions found within the October
2, 2015 planning report, as amended adding a condition that a traffic study be
undertaken and that the applicant work with the City and City Engineer with
regarding to traffic safety issues.
Carried 2-1, Kremer opposed.
B. Sign Ordinance 401.15.G—Consider amendment to Zoning Ordinance
401.15.G—Signs for the purpose of clarifying and simplifying regulations
and providing better visibility for Hwy. 36 corridor and Hwy. 5 intersection
businesses.
City Planner Richards provided a brief update of the sign ordinance revision process
and discussed the proposed amendments to the ordinance language.
Chair Kremer opened the public hearing at 8:16 p.m. and invited comment from the
audience.
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Jerry Brown of Musicmakers— 14525 61st St. Ct. N. noted that in light of the
roadway changes by their business area,he would be interested in having a multi-
tenant sign for the business development put in place and wondered if something like
that would be allowed. Brief discussion was had as to what was currently on site for
signs. Richards indicated that the City would certainly work with Mr. Brown to see
what they could do at the site and encourage him to contact City staff.
Donae Gustafson of Nuview Psychological Services—6120 Oren Ave. N. indicated
that her business was also within the business development with Mr. Browns and
that she would like to see the freestanding signs at the individual businesses remain
so that visitors can find them within their respective businesses. Richards noted that
multi-tenant buildings would likely be able to retain their freestanding signs in
addition to any development signage placed and noted that the City would be willing
to work with the development on changes to their signage.
Ann Wasescha—5675 Newberry Ave. N. addressed the Commission and questioned
why signs should be made easier, noting that as a former member of the Planning
Commission,they created the sign regulations and that the regulations were created
with careful thought as to what was desired in the community and in keeping the best
interests of the community in mind.
Discussion commenced as to the nature of many of the amendments being to make
the ordinance easier to navigate and staff to facilitate, to take into consideration new
technologies available to businesses for signs,the nature of ordinances evolving over
time and allowing businesses greater opportunities to market themselves.
Warren Wasescha—5675 Newberry Ave. N. stated that he felt good guidelines were
important,noting that rules tend to be broken over time and business advertisement
competition can create challenges. He expressed that careful consideration needs to
be given as to what is allowed so that it doesn't look like a circus throughout the
community.
Commissioner Anthony expressed that she felt that the review and amendments
proposed are an attempt to reach balance for the businesses within the City and to
reduce micromanagement.
James Roehrl introduced himself as a representative of the company that
manufactured the electronic signs installed at Stillwater Motors and noted the efforts
of the Commission to streamline the ordinance and its definitions. He offered his
company's legislative department to assist the City, if they desired,to work with
them on the ordinance. Mr. Roehrl did state that he would like to see the display
time requirement reduced and provided references to studies that have declared that
electronic signs do not constitute a traffic hazard.
City Administrator Johnson noted that over 250 notices were mailed to City
businesses and that other than those present,no responses were received and noted
time and practice in reviewing the sign ordinance both present and past.
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Warren Wasescha—5675 Newberry Ave. N. stated that he was initially shocked at
the Stillwater Motors signs,when they first went up, in light of the conversations had
at the public hearing. Wasescha noted that he found the time intervals of the signs
and brightness of them as they are currently is okay.
There being no other visitors to the public hearing, Chair Kremer closed the public
hearing at 8:39 p.m.
Commissioner Bye, seconded by Commissioner Anthony moved to recommend City
Council approval of the amendments to the ordinance and the definitions as proposed
in the City Planner's memo of October 1, 2015.
Carried 3-0.
VII. New Business: None.
VIII. Old Business: None.
IX. Informational:
A. Upcoming Meetings:
• Tuesday, October 13, 2015 City Council 7:00 p.m./City Hall
• Tuesday, October 27, 2015 City Council 7:00 p.m./City Hall
• Tuesday,November 10, 2015 City Council 7:00 p.m./City Hall
• Thursday,November 12, 2015 Planning Commission 7:00 p.m./City Hall
B. Council Representative
• Tuesday, October 27, 2015 —Commissioner Kremer
• Tuesday, December 8, 2015—Commissioner Thurmes
Chair Kremer stated that he will attend whichever City Council meeting it is that
discusses the Stillwater Area High School request.
X. Adjourn. Commissioner Anthony, seconded by Commissioner Bye,moved to adjourn
at 8:48 p.m. Carried 3 —0.
Respectfully submitted,
Juli ultman
Pl. g& Code Enforcement
Approved by the Planning Commission: 11-12-2015