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Home My WebLink About2005-11-22 WC Ltr to Mister Car Wash Re Sign in ROW Washm. Department of Transportation gt( 11 and Physical Development Donald J.Theisen,P.E. � C01�11� Director/County Engineer Wayne H.Sandberg,P.E. Deputy Director/Ass't.County Engineer November 22, 2005 Greg Lemon Mister Car Wash 5900 Osgood Ave. N. • Stillwater, MN 55082 SIGN IN RIGHT OF WAY OF WASHINGTON COUNTY STATE AID HIGHWAY 24 (OSGOOD AVENUE NORTH; CSAH 24) IN OAK PARK HEIGHTS Dear Mr. Lemon: I was recently reminded of the Mister Car Wash sign in the Osgood Avenue right of way. In April of 2004, we set a deadline of September 30, 2005 for removal of the sign if the "Buttonhook" design concept for Highway 36 reconstruction was rejected. That design was rejected but we failed to remind you to remove the sign by September 30th This letter is your notification that the sign must be moved out of County right of way. Since relocating the sign in the winter months would be costly and difficult, we will extend that deadline to June 1, 2006. I have enclosed copies of our previous letters regarding the sign, dating back to November 14, 2002. Because the sign base blocks visibility to the south, it must be removed. Please call me at 651-430-4312 if you have any questions. Sincerely, oseph Lux Senior Transportation Planner Enclosures C: Eric Johnson, oak Park Heights City Administrator Gary Kriesel, Washington County Commissioner, District 3 Jim Schug, Washington County Administrator Don Theisen, Washington County Engineer Wayne Sandberg, Assistant County Engineer Ted Schoenecker, County Traffic Engineer N:\WORD\Traffic Safety\Mister Car Wash,112205.doc • 11660 Myeron Road North, Stillwater, Minnesota 55082-9573 Phone: 651-430-4300 • Fax: 651-430-4350 • I IY: 651-430-6246 www.co.washington.mn.us Equal Employment Opportunity/Affirmative Action �1�yGTON CoL WASHINGTON COUNTY Donald C.Wisniewski,P.E. •• Director. 3 ,1,, D' 4RTM E NT OF TRANSPORT, 1 O N Donald J. Theisen, DepUty Director/County Engineer , & PHYSICAL DEVELOPMENT James D.Luger,RLA 93`— ' �`` 11660 MYERON ROAD NORTH•STILLWATER,MINNESOTA 55082-9573 Parks Director '.5esraY-Pit0S44S� 651-430-4300 Facsimile Machine 651-430-4350 Virginia S.Chace Administrative Services Division Manager Larry S.Nybeck,PLS-County Surveyor Deputy Director,Survey and Land Management Division • Marvin Erickson Facilities Manager November 14, 2002 CWP West Corp. 5900 Osgood Ave. N. Oak Park Heights, MN 55082 _"MISTER CAR WASH" SIGN IN RIGHT OF WAY OF WASHINGTON COUNTY STATE AID • HIGHWAY 24 (OSGOOD AVENUE NORTH; CSAH 24) We recently received a complaint that your sign, located in the southwest quadrant of Osgood Avenue and 59th Street North, blocks drivers'visibility to the south. When we checked it,we found that the sign, and especially the retaining wall around it, does block the sight lines of eastbound • drivers on 59th Street. We then checked to determine if it is located on your property or in the public right of way and found that it is almost entirely located in the County's right of way for CSAH 24. Minnesota Statute 160.27, Subdivisions 8 and 9, specifically prohibit advertising signs in public rights of way. More importantly, this installation is a definite traffic hazard. It must be removed and relocated outside of the right of way. . We recognize that it is difficult, if not impossible to do this work during the winter, so you may wait until spring to relocate the sign. If it is not moved by June 1, 2003, we will take steps to ensure that it is removed. We apologize for the inconvenience and expense that moving the sign will cause you, but we regard it as serious traffic hazard that must be removed. It has the potential to cause a serious accident and could create significant liabilities for you and the County. We cannot allow the sign and retaining wall to remain in the right of way. I have enclosed some photos of the sign and retaining wall, the "RW B" sign sticking up between the sign base and shrub is a right of way corner marker. I have also enclosed an air photo showing right of way limits and a copy of Minnesota Statute 160.27. Please call me at 651-430-4312 if you have questions or comments. Sincerely, vJosep h Lux Senior Transportation Planner Enclosures C: Don Theisen, Washington County Engineer Wayne Sandberg, Washington County Transportation Engineer Greg Felt, Washington County Transportation Manager Meredith Magers, Assistant Washington County Attorney Julie Hoist, Acting Oak Park Heights City Administrator ,4 � WASHINGTON COUNTY Donald C.Wisniewskl,P.E. Director r ik �\ C `ARTMENT OF TRANSPORT .'ION Donald J.County Engineer/DeputyDirector & PHYSICAL DEVELOPMENT James D.Luger,RLA �s/ 11660 MYERON ROAD NORTH•STILLWATER,MINNESOTA 55082-9573 Parks Director o� E55 651-430-4300 Facsimile Machine 651-430-4350 i. Virginia S.Chace Administrative Services Division Manager Michael J.Welling,PLS County Surveyor May 30, 2003 Macon Erickson Facilities Manager Patrick Secord • Vice President Operations- Northwest Mister Car Wash - 3561 East Sunrise Drive, Suite 125 Tucson, AZ 85718 SIGN IN RIGHT OF WAY OF WASHINGTON COUNTY STATE AID HIGHWAY 24(OSGOOD AVENUE NORTH; CSAH 24) IN OAK PARK HEIGHTS, MINNESOTA Dear Mr. Secord: Thank you for meeting with me last week at your Oak Park Heights location. Our survey crew staked the limits of the County right of way yesterday(5/29/03) to assist you in determining where to relocate the sign. When we met, you asked for some time to arrange the relocation of the sign. We would like to see it moved as soon as possible, but no later than October 31, 2003. Since we met I have received two more complaints from motorists about the difficulty this sign creates in seeing to the south. We would appreciate it if the block planter around the sign base were removed prior to the sign relocation, and as soon as possible. Thank you for your cooperation on this matter. Please call me at 651-4304312 if you have any questions. Sincerely, oK XY — z . seph Lux Senior Transportation Planner C: Greg Lemon, Mister Car Wash, Oak Park Heights Wayne Sandberg, County Transportation Engineer Eric Johnson, Oak Park Heights City Administrator °N o 2 _WASHINGTON CO U MTY Director Donald C Wisnievsk,P.E. PARTMENT OF TRANSPOR .TION Donald J.Theisen,P.E. & PHYSICAL DEVELOPMENT County Engineer/Deputy Director o�� James D.Luger,RLA.e; 11660 MYERON ROAD NORTH•STILLWATER,MINNESOTA 55082-9573 Parks Director pslase 651-430-4300 Facsimile Machine 651-430-4350 Virginia s.Chace Administrative Services Division Manager Michael J.Welling,PLS County Surveyor September 15, 2003 Marvin Erickson Facilities Manager Greg Lemon Mister Car Wash 5900 Osgood Ave. N. Stillwater, MN 55082 SIGN IN RIGHT OF WAY OF WASHINGTON COUNTY STATE AID HIGHWAY 24(OSGOOD AVENUE NORTH; CSAH 24),OAK PARK HEIGHTS Dear Mr. Lemon: I have discussed with the County Engineer the difficulties that you are having in moving your sign. You have improved visibility for drivers by removing the planter that had been built around the sign base. Nevertheless, the sign base still restricts visibility to the south and is, in our opinion, a traffic hazard. Also, we are prohibited by statute from allowing advertising signs in County right of way. We ask that you continue to work with the City of Oak Park Heights to find a solution that conforms to City ordinances or that is an acceptable variance. We will extend our deadline for moving the sign by one year to October 31, 2004. • Please call me at 651-430-4312 if you have any questions or if I can be of any help. Sincerely, oseph Lux Senior Transportation Planner C: Don Theisen, County Engineer Wayne Sandberg, County Traffic Engineer Jim Schug, County Administrator Eric Johnson, Oak Park Heights City Administrator Patrick Secord, Vice President, Operations, Mister Car Wash