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Thursday, August 9, 2001
Call To Order Chair Vogt called the meeting to order at 7:01 p.m. Present:
Commissioners Dwyer, Hedlund, Powell and Runk; Community Development Director
Danielson; City Planner Richards; and Council Liaison McComber.
Welcome New Commissioner - Mark Powel Chair Vogt welcomed Mark Powell to the
Planning Commission
Approval of Agenda Commissioner Dwyer, seconded by Commissioner Hedlund moved
to approve the Agenda as presented. Carried 5 -0.
Approval of July 12, 2001 Minutes Commissioner Dwyer, seconded by
Commissioner Hedlund, moved to approve the minutes with language and
typographical changes. Carried 5 -0.
Visitors: None.
Public Hearineas:
A. D.D.D., L.L.C. Planned Unit Development Amendment Reques Consideration of
request to amend Planned Unit Development to allow for a change to site plan at
5525 Memorial Ave. N.
City Planner Richards stated that D.D.D., L.L.C. has submitted a request to amend
their C.U.P. and P.U.D. to allow access on the Northerly side of their West building and
removal of the center island between the buildings to allow for easier backing of
delivery trucks. The removal of the island would create a 20 -ft wide passageway.
Planner Richards informed the Commission that the Valley Branch Watershed District
has contacted D.D.D., L.L.C. and has told them to deepen their pond by two feet to
deal with runoff water.
Planner Richards also recommended that the trash enclosures be larger in order to
accommodate several more dumpsters, so that the buildings may handle increased
amounts of garbage with ease.
Chair Vogt opened the public hearing 7:08 p.m. and invited comment from the public.
Steve Contineza of D.D.D., L.L.C. took this time to address the Commission, stating
that he wished they had listened to the commission to begin with. Several potential
renters had viewed the site and were confused by the lack of access from the rear of
the buildings. He also reiterated that the Valley Branch Watershed District approved
of the increased surface area as long as the pond was made deeper.
Commissioner Dwyer, seconded by Commissioner Runk, moved to close the public
hearing at 7:11 p.m. Carried 5 -0.
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Commissioner Hedlund, seconded by Commissioner Runk, moved to recommend the
development amendment to the City Council of the City of Oak Park Heights with the
following conditions:
1. The driveway access at the north side of the westerly building shall be at
least 20 ft wide.
2. The storm water pond shall be constructed compliant with recommendations
of the Valley Branch Watershed District and the City Engineer.
3. The trash enclosure shall be sized to accommodate at least two dumpsters
and shall be constructed of materials similar to the principal buildings on
site.
4. All conditions of the CUP /PUD and site plan approval made by the City
Council at their April 24, 2001 meeting shall be complied with by the
applicants.
B. Sigstad Carpets — Site Plan Review and Conditional Use Permi For construction
of retail carpet sales /warehouse and leased space at 60th St. N. in the Central
Business District.
City Planner Richards stated that the City received a request for a C.U.P. to install a
four -tenant retail facility in the Central Business District, which would comply with the
set design guidelines. The facility would be built in two phases. Stormwater will be an
issue on site, and while the city plans to construct ponds at some point, onsite
stormwater ponds will need to be constructed in phase one, in addition to three retail
spaces. The plan is consistent, zoning is appropriate, and City Planner Richards likes
the building setbacks. Planner Richards confirmed that this is close to what was
originally envisioned.
Planner Richards acknowledged that there were some variations between the design
guidelines and the zoning ordinance, but the guidelines were set up to prevail in
conflicts with the zoning ordinance.
Planner Richards informed the commission that there is a 40ft easement on 60th street,
so the buildings in the CBD will not be as close to the road as originally proposed in
the design guidelines, but the space will be utilized by parking. The building itself will
be 20ft, and will appear taller with a two -story appearance. A variety of building
materials will be used, as well as colors. It is unlikely that either the street or the
sidewalk be constructed this year, but initial grading might be possible this fall /winter.
City Arborist Widin made several comments on the landscape plan pertaining to tree
varieties and abundance.
Planner Richards also called the issues of access to the Commission's attention. The
main entrance to the facility should be 150' from 60th as opposed to the proposed 60'
due to the length of the semi trucks and the possibilities of blocking traffic. An
application will be submitted to the MNDOT to allow temporary access from 60th street
during the construction of the facility, and keep one access point as truck -only access.
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Planner Richards then stated that there would be fewer parking spaces in the proposed
development, but there would be more on street parking.
Community Development Director Danielson stated that many parking lots have been
built for after Thanksgiving and Christmas day capacities and are otherwise
underused. The smaller parking lot size designated by the Design Guidelines will limit
the amount of surface parking which might be required in a more suburban
development. Discussion was held on the chronology of the Zoning Ordinance, Design
Guidelines, and the Urban Design Study. Director Danielson provided a brief history of
the three documents for the Commission.
Commissioner Hedlund requested a clarification on what the ordinance specifically
requires. Discussion was held on the number of stalls required; 120 and 125 by
ordinance and 69 75 by the design guidelines. A variance would not be required, as a
lesser standard could by applied through a C.U.P.
Chair Vogt opened the public hearing at 7:30 p.m. and invited comment from the
public.
Jeff Hensel of Greystone Construction addressed the Commission and asked to discuss
jumbo brick. Maple Grove has the only type of development like the Central Business
District in the area, and jumbo brick was used in its construction. He felt that jumbo
brick would be appropriate in large building developments such as this with Sigstad's
Carpets.
Commissioner Runk, seconded by Commissioner Dwyer, moved to close the public
hearing at 7:37 p.m. 5 -0.
Discussion was held on the truck -only access, and Mr. Hensel again addressed the
commission. He stated that car traffic would be limited with curb and gutter.
Commissioner Powell suggested that the truck access be limited to East access only.
He stated that the trucks might have difficulty making the turn on Oakgreen Avenue,
and risk blocking traffic.
Discussion was held on the size of jumbo bricks, and it was concluded that jumbo
bricks were close to double the size of regular bricks. Planner Richards felt that the
jumbo bricks were proportional and were appropriate for developments such as
Sigstad Carpets.
Director Danielson informed the Commission of a Met Council grant that the City of
Oak Park Heights recently applied for, which could award $65,000 to the City of Oak
Park Heights to remove the Auto Salvage Yard.
Commissioner Runk, seconded by Commissioner Dwyer, motioned that jumbo brick
meets the intent of the Design Guidelines for medium box development in the Central
Business District and to approve access from 60th and the unnamed street contingent
on approval of all access points and permits from the MNDOT. 5 -0.
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C. Continued: Walgreen's Pharmacy Conditional Use Permit Variance and Sit
Plan Review To consider a conditional use permit request, variance, and site
plan review for construction of a Walgreen's Pharmacy at 6061 Osgood Ave.
Community Development Director Danielson informed the Commission that she had
spoken with Walgreen's representatives and expressed that the Commission was
concerned with the lack of new materials. Walgreen's representatives requested that
the issue be continued to the September meeting.
Chair Vogt opened the public hearing at 7:57 and invited comment from the public.
Commissioner Dwyer, seconded by Commissioner Runk, moved to continue the public
hearing to the September Planning Commission meeting. 5 -0.
D. Continued: Sprint Conditional Use Permit and Height Varianc To consider a
conditional use permit request for construction of a 160' telecommunications
monopole and height variance request at 5920 Memorial Ave. N.
Community Development Director Danielson informed the Commission of a request to
withdraw the request for the C.U.P. and height variance at 5920 Memorial Ave. N., and
that City Staff recommended to allow the withdrawal.
Chair Vogt opened the public hearing at 7:59 and invited comment from the public
Commissioner Runk, seconded by Commissioner Dwyer, moved to close the public
hearing at 7:59 p.m.
Commissioner Runk, seconded by commissioner Vogt, moved to acknowledge receipt of
the letter withdrawing the application. 5 -0.
Discussion was held on the average length of the public hearing process. Community
Development Director Danielson informed the Commission that the process normally
takes one and one -half to two months.
New Business None.
Old Business
A. Sign Ordinance Information: 1. City of Woodbury
2. City of South St. Paul
3. City of Maple Grove
4. City of St. Paul
5. City of Roseville
Community Development Director Danielson stated that staff began researching and
presented highlighted sections to the Commission.
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Commissioner Hedlund inquired as to what was the next step in the process. Director
Danielson replied that the next step would be to bring experts to a workshop/ listening
station, or perhaps have separate meetings for each.
City Planner Richards stated that the process of goal setting might be helpful, and
proposed having each commissioner decide which signs were their most and least
favorite, and work from there.
Chair Vogt took around 80 pictures of signs in Oak Park Heights and found many
illegal real estate and promotional signs. He also found that there was no commonality
to the city signs. He stated that he felt it would be worthwhile to meet in a workshop
to discuss what was wrong with the signs and the ordinance.
Chair Vogt, seconded by Commissioner Runk, moved to hold a two -hour workshop
prior to the September 13th Planning Meeting, 5:00 p.m. to 7:00 p.m. 5 -0.
Informational / Ubdate:
A. Zoning Ordinance Clarification - 401.150 -9:
Community Development Director Danielson stated that the issue here is concerned
with the definition of the light source. Zoning Ordinance 401.15 -9 states that the light
source must be within 25 ft of the ground, but does not require the pole itself to be a
maximum of 25 ft.
Discussion was held as to the possible implications of changing the ordinance or
leaving without changes. Possible uses for the higher poles were discussed at length.
Chair Vogt, seconded by Commissioner Runk, moved that the ordinance needs no
alteration. 5 -0.
Chair Vogt continued, stating that the uses for the extended pole may be defined by
clarifications in the sign ordinance.
Community Development Director Danielson informed the Commission of an upcoming
Public Art Symposium on Sunday, September 15th, 9:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. Admission
is free, but Commissioners must call (612) 870 -3202.
Adjournment Commissioner Runk, seconded by Dwyer, moved to adjourn at 8:33 p.m.
Carried 5 -0.
Respectfully submitted,
Scott Johnson
Community Development
Approved by the Planning Commission: September 13, 2001