HomeMy WebLinkAboutTraffic Issues Hwy 5 and Stillwater High School o\NNESpT� Minnesota Department of Transportation
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Transportation Building
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Oakdale Office, 3485 Hadley Avenue North, Oakdale, Minnesota 55128
Golden Valley Office, 2055 North Lilac Drive, Golden Valley, Minnesota 55422
5801 Duluth St.
Reply to Golden Valley, MN 55422
Telephone No. (612) 591 -4605
August 19, 1993
Mr. Lindy Swanson
Chief of Police
City of Oak Park Heights
14168 57* Street North
P. O. Box 2007
Oak Park Heights, Minnesota 55082
Re: C. S. 8214 (T. H. 36)
South Frontage Road Parking Restrictions at T. H. 5
Dear Chief Swanson:
Chuck Siggerud has asked me to investigate and respond to your letter of August 1&
regarding the school district's concern about the possibility of students parking on the
frontage road near the new Stillwater Area High School. We agree that it is not desirable
to permit parking on this road as the pavement is only wide enough to accommodate two
standard traffic lanes, the shoulders are quite narrow and the shoulder slopes are steep.
While we appreciate the need to head off any problems before they occur, it is usual
Mn /DOT practice to only install " NC PARKING" signs in locations where there have been
actual problems with parked vehicles. Because of sign maintenance requirements, conflicts
with other maintenance activities, and the fact that any obstruction close to the roadway
must be considered a hazard, Mn /DOT would prefer to limit sign installations as much as
possible. In this particular case, we note that the frontage road is at some distance from the
school and that the available width is inadequate for normal parking. We believe that these
factors make the road quite unattractive as a potential parking location.
We would like to suggest that the students be informed by announcements and /or bulletin
notices on the first days of classes that parking is not permitted on the frontage road. We
would then ask that your department and the school district keep alert to any parking
problems that may develop in the next several weeks. If these problems persist and cannot
be solved in any other manner, Mn /DOT will be prepared to install NO PARKING signs on
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Mr. Lindy Swanson
August 19, 1993
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short notice. (In the notification to students, it could be stated that signing will be installed
and enforcement will be carried out if students are observed to be parking on the frontage
road.)
Sincerely,
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Division Traffic Engineer
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Golden Valley Office, 2055 North Lilac Drive, Golden Valley, Minnesota 55422
Reply to Oakdale Office
Telephone No.
November 4, 1993
Mr. Dave Wettergren
Superintendent of Schools
1875 Greeley St.
Stillwater 11N 55082
Re: C.S. 8214 (T.H. 5) at 58th Street
Stillwater High School Entrance
Dear Mr. Wettergren:
This letter is in response to the questions directed to our office
regarding the traffic conditions at the intersection of T.H. 5 and
58th street (Stillwater High School entrance) . Let me begin by
assuring you that we appreciate your concerns and are committed to
doing everything within our power to improve the existing
conditions.
As you know, during the morning hours, vehicles turning left into
the school back up onto southbound T.H. 5. Several factors
contribute to this problem:
1. The total left turn volume into the high school between 7:00
and 8:00 AM is 459 vehicles. This volumelis much higher
than the capacity of the existing lane. The rule of thumb
is that two turn lanes are needed if the turn volume exceeds
300 vehicles in one hour. Please keep in mind that the
geometric improvements in the area were part of an interim
project to help traffic flow on T.H. 5. In doing these
improvements, we were constrained by the existing right of
way. T.H. 5 is scheduled to be widened to 2 lanes in each
direction in 1997.
2. Of those 459 vehicles, 229 turn left between 7:30 and 7:45
AM. This is a tremendous concentration of vehicles turning
in a very short time period. It is physically impossible
for one lane to handle this much traffic in this time period
without delay and backups. The existing traffic signal was
built to allow vehicles to complete the maneuver in a safe
manner with minimum delay.
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November 4, 1993
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3. Among those 459 vehicles are numerous school buses. Buses
occupy large storage spaces in the turn lane and need more
time to complete the turning maneuver.
4. The entrance on 58th street is the only major entrance to
the school, the only other being a right -in, right -out
entrance south of 58th street, that was only recently
opened. All the vehicles coming from the north, from
T.H. 36, are forced to use the first entrance causing
heavy congestion. T.H. 5 was never intended to handle all
the traffic volume generated by the school. We believe that
another entrance should be built on the east side of the
school.
5. Problems with the traffic circulation inside the school
parking lot cause vehicles entering the school to stop and
queue all the way back to the entrance on T.H. 5.
Increasing the green time designated for the left turn
movement would not improve traffic conditions because the
school entrance is blocked by queued vehicles.
6. The school starts at 8:00 AM which coincides with the AM
peak hour; 550 vehicles travel south on T. 4. 5 between 7:00
and 8:00 AM. Other schools start at earlier times to avoid
rush hour traffic. The Burnsville High School, for example,
starts at 7:00 AM. Your school should consider changing, or
at least staggering, its starting time.
Based on your comments, we have reviewed the operation of the signal
and have determined that it does not have any malfunctions.
Furthermore, we are certain that the existing signal is operating as
well as it can under the existing conditions. This is evident from
the fact that backups disappear around 8:00 AM after school traffic
is gone.
The Traffic Office anticipated this problem before the school opened
and has been working to improve traffic conditions as much as
possible. It is important for you to understand that this is a
capacity problem and it will not be totally solved until T.H. 5 is
widened and the conditions listed in the six factors listed above
are changed.
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Dave Wettergren
November 4, 1993
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Please be assured that we are prepared to take any appropriate and
viable action that will improve conditions at this intersection. In
fact, we are willing to work with you to alleviate the intensity of
the problem and identify viable long term solutions. Your
cooperation is needed. In the meantime, we will continue to answer
all your questions and concerns. We do, however, request that you
designate one person in your school to be the primary contact with
our office. Please have your contact direct all questions to me at
779 -5047 or to Robert Betts at 779 -5189. We look forward to working
with you.
Sincerely,
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Amr K. abr
Signal Operations Engineer
cc /Dr. Jon Swenson - Principal
Ann Beers - State Patrol (Oakdale)